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See NY Times article November 17, 2007: then ask yourself if bariatric surgery is the direction you want to go in.

Ted Rothstein, DDS, PhD
Cosmetic Orthodontist for Adults and Children
American Association of Orthodontists

Founder DPOJW www.drted.com/DPOJW.html
35 Remsen St., Brooklyn, NY 11201
718 852 1551    Fx 718 852 1894  drted35@aol.com   www.drted.com

 

 

This page concerns a dialogue between myself and Anne Collins whose researchers recently discovered my work on Orthodontic Jaw Wiring for weight control.   While I was very pleased with having my work of almost ten years recently discovered by Anne (visit her  comprehensive and extensive web site relating to the The Anne Collins Diet,  I was perturbed that no links to my site  had been placed.    I wrote her to point out the omission.  She verified my issues and promptly corrected it by adding a special note on each page that I was the author of the work she referenced.  In turn added links from my site to hers. Thank you Anne.  

What follows is our dialogue: 
 

Please see:

http://www.annecollins.com/lose_weight/jaw-wiring-weight-loss.htm

http://www.annecollins.com/diets/jaw-wiring-obesity.htm

Much to delight and surprise Anne responded the same morning: 
Hello Ted,
Thank you very much for your message. I'm very concerned about the
possibility that one of my researchers may have used material from your
site without giving you proper credit. To enable me to look into the
matter, would you do me a favor and tell me (a) which pages on my site you
are referring to, and (b) the URL of your site.

As soon as I have this information, I'll have the matter dealt with as
soon as possible. If you're right in what you say, I'll be only too happy
to exchange links with you in order to credit you as the source. It's no
problem whatsoever.  Best wishes,  Anne Collins 
Anne Collins...Non-Stop Customer Support...http://www.annecollins.com


Anne  wrote to me again a few days later to which I responded:

Dear Anne,
 
The URL I  want you  to link to is:
http://www.drted.com/index.html.bak2/jaw_wiring.htm
This is Grand Central Station for the world of Orthodontic Jaw Wiring for weight control (OJW). 
 
Thanking you in advance. Cordially, Ted Rothstein, DDS, PhD
 
Post Script- the problems:
 
See:but it faintly resembles certain types of oral surgery,
      See:Jaw Wiring For Weight Loss
      and See: Jaw Wiring Surgery To Reduce Obesity  Both links listed under the below link
These are NOT surgical procedures, nor do they "faintly resemble surgical procedures"  I have worked hard to show that OJW is IN NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM A SURGICAL PROCEDURE.
 
Related Weight Loss Surgery Links NOT:
 
The object of OJW is to limit the apartness of the jaws i.e. to suspend the mandible (lower jaw) from the upper with very soft but durable wire at a distance of about 2-4 mm, the position being a little less than the position your jaw is in right now as you reading this note.  This position in dentistry is very close to the position we call the "physiologic rest position" of the mandible ... when a patient is wired in such a position the mandible is free to move forward, right and left and open and closed about 2-4 mm... Just enough to talk reasonably well and get sufficient jaw joint exercise to prevent the joint from stiffening over a 6-9 month treatment period.
 
The dentist's responsibility is to: teach the patient how to rewire them selves particularly when they come from afar and oversee the health of the gums, teeth and the TMJ jaw joint when they can return to the office every five week to be examined and rewired. The responsibility  of weight loss is the patient's.
 
Oral surgeons utilize "full arch surgical arch bars" to permit wiring the upper and lower jaws together...permitting no movement in any direction whatever. The only similarity between the two is the requirement that the patient is limited to a liquid diet.  I have the patient arrange their own liquid diet. I urge them to understand the need to remain below 1300 calorie/day.
 
The Informed Consent I use:    The Informed Consent for OJW  (pat. pending)

Problem 3:  http://www.annecollins.com/lose_weight/jaw-wiring-weight-loss.htm:   No link and no name.  Moreover, it is written: "Jaw wiring is not a main stream therapy for weight reduction, although its lack of appeal may stem from its out of date image, rather than lack of effectiveness as a weight loss strategy. More common in the 70s and 80s, jaw wiring has now been overtaken by bariatric surgical procedures such as gastric bypass or Lap BandŽ.

My goal is simple: Reintroduce OJW because it is simple, safe and effective and OJW now has an "Informed Consent" and a protocol for delivering the service safely and effectively to carefully selected patients. It is a logical choice before the last resort that being surgery (OF ANY) KIND WHERE  THE PROCEDURE HAS AN UNCCPTABLE MORTALITY RATE ATTENDING IT... NOT TO MENTION THE MULTIPLE AND SOMETIMES FRIGHTENING AND EXTENSIVE POST-OPERATIVE SIDE EFFECTS. 

Please remember above all I am an orthodontist (www.drted.com). By some quirk of fate I seem to been "chosen" to be the banner carrier for this modality of treatment. I have persisted only because of the accolades of many patients who claimed they benefited.

Finally, all of the above being said I must add that my work appearing on your site has given me great pleasure since it promotes my principal goals:  to familiarize other dental professionals with OJW and to popularize the technique so that it becomes as familiar, if not more so, than "gastric bypass" has become. AIM HIGH and remain focused on the goal.  Cordially, Ted

 
In a message dated 12/1/2007 8:18:43 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, anne@annecollins.com writes:
Dear Ted,

Thanks for getting back to me.   Before I investigate the matter, let me just clarify the URL you want me to link to from my two pages on Jaw Wiring. (The form garbled the detailsof your URL).
The URL you want me to link to is:http://www.drted.com/index.html.bak2/jaw_wiring.htm   Is this correct?   If you can confirm that I've got the correct URL, I'll investigate the
matter first thing on Monday.   If material HAS been taken from your site without giving you a proper   credit, then on Tuesday or Wednesday I'll have my webmaster post a link to
your site from both pages, together with a nice recommendation to visitors
to check out the procedure for themselves on your site.  Best wishes   Anne Collins   Non-Stop Customer  Support   http://www.annecollins.com

November 30, 2007

Dear Anne Collins:

 This morning I wrote the letter below and sent it to: http://www.annecollins.com

Re:               http://www.annecollins.com/diets/jaw-wiring-obesity.htm 

                    http://www.annecollins.com/lose_weight/weight-loss-surgery.htm

                    http://www.annecollins.com/lose_weight/jaw-wiring-weight-loss.htm

Re: Failure to cite Dr. Rothstein as sole source of information you posted on your site, and Jaw Wiring being listed as a surgical procedure, see below

 I am the author and inventor of "Orthodontic" Jaw Wiring see www.drted.com. Indeed I am the SOLE SOURCE OF ALL INFORMATION RELATED TO THIS TOPIC and the sole source from which you took the information you posted on the subject.  

As I noted last week in my note to you in this same space you have taken all information related to this topic from my site to update your own site which in the past referenced only inter-maxillary fixation "('jaw wiring") as done by an oral surgeon. I wrote you  last week and as yet you have neither responded or corrected.

I have informed my attorney of your irresponsibility in failing to cite me properly. Moreover, you have listed Jaw wiring for weight loss under the rubric of "Weight loss surgery links"  Jaw wiring for weight loss is NOT A SURGICAL PROCEDURE.

Finally, all the jaw wiring for weight loss links lead back YOUR cite. Please call or email me to acknowledge my points. Lacking any response or failure to correct the aforementioned oversights by November 16, I will take appropriate measures in insure that you do. I have designated my attorney Ms. R.S. to monitor your compliance with my request. I hope you will see fit to correct the problems.

Yours truly, Ted Rothstein, DDS, PhD. 

Ps: As for your assertion  that "jaw wiring has now been OVERTAKEN by bariatric surgical procedures such as gastric bypass or Lap BandŽ.": if your intention is to subvert, diminish, minimize or distort the intention of "OJW" as I named it this wording accomplishes that. Given that ALL weight control/loss methods have regaining of the weight in all or part only an uninformed person would choose gastric by pass or Lap Band before choosing OJW since OJW ENTAILS NO RISK OF DEATH.

My intention  for OJW is to position this NON-SURGICAL PROCEDURE as a conservative  treatment approach to weight control/loss prior to considering gastric bypass or lap-band. In effect jaw wiring which fell into disfavor about in the 70's as you well note, is very much alive as the sole result of my efforts to provide it with a protocol, a continuing ed course and an Informed Consent.

Please have the correctness to give this author the proper credit he deserves.

Diet And Weight Loss Guide

Found on your site:

Related Weight Loss Surgery Links:

Obesity Guide
How We Digest Food
Body Fat Guide: How We Gain Fat
Stomach Stapling Obesity Surgery
Liposuction Guide
Liposuction Surgery For Fat Loss
Health Complications Of Liposuction
Jaw Wiring For Weight Loss
Jaw Wiring Surgery To Reduce Obesity
Stomach Balloon Obesity Surgery
Rib Removal Surgery To Improve Body Shape

Ted Rothstein, DDS, PhD
Cosmetic Orthodontist for Adults and Children
American Association of Orthodontists

Founder DPOJW www.drted.com/DPOJW.html
35 Remsen St., Brooklyn, NY 11201
718 852 1551    Fx 718 852 1894 drted35@aol.com     www.drted.com

 

 

December 5, 2007

Hello Ted,

Thanks for getting back to me.
    I haven't had time to check out the precise details of your initial query, but in the interests of visitors to my site, and given your apparent
expertise in Orthodontic Jaw Wiring, I have asked my technical guys to a
nd a link on both my relevant pages to your information page.
 

Please see:

http://www.annecollins.com/lose_weight/jaw-wiring-weight-loss.htm

http://www.annecollins.com/diets/jaw-wiring-obesity.htm

If this guides some needy patients in your direction I'll be only too delighted. I am not a great supporter of bariatric surgery, and my weight loss forum - probably the most active dieting forum on the Internet - has dozens and dozens of members who have undergone such surgery with no long term benefit of any kind. Fortunately, the support we give them is in nearly all cases doing the trick.   Ted, if I can assist you in any way in the future, please let me know.
Best wishes, Anne Collins
Non-Stop Customer Support

December 5, 2007

Dear Anne,

 
Thank you.
 
This works very well for me.  Cordially,  Ted  Ps. See my link back to you at   http://www.drted.com/index.html.bak2/Jaw wiring directory of site URL's.htm   find:

126. Reminder: The object of OJW is to limit the apartness of the jaws i.e., to suspend the mandible (lower jaw) from the upper jaw with very soft but durable wire ("dead-soft") at a distance of about 2-4 mm, the position being a little less than the position your jaw is in right now as you reading this preface.  This position in dentistry is very close to the position we call the "physiologic rest position" of the mandible ... When a patient is wired in such a position the mandible is free to move forward and back, right and left and open and closed about 2-4 mm... Just enough to talk reasonably well and get sufficient jaw joint exercise to prevent the joint from stiffening over a 6-9 month treatment period.   The dentist's responsibility is to: teach the patient how to rewire them selves particularly when they come from afar and oversee the health of the gums, teeth and the TMJ jaw joint when they can return to the office every five week to be examined and rewired. The responsibility of weight loss is the patient's.  Oral surgeons utilize "full arch surgical arch bars" to permit wiring the upper and lower jaws together...permitting no movement in any direction whatever. The only similarity between the two is the requirement that the patient is limited to a liquid diet.  I have the patient arrange their own liquid diet. I urge them to understand the need to remain below 1300 calories or less/day.   Anne Collins has a comprehensive and extensive web site, http://www.annecollins.com/index.htm , on weight loss and control.. She has a proprietary low-carbohydrate diet whose benefits are spelled out in infinite detail.  Moreover, she has devoted part of her site to LIQUID DIETS.  I recommend you read her comments: http://www.annecollins.com/diets/liquid-diets.htm

Please let me know if this works for you.   Ted